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		<title>Comment on Linux question, followup&#8230; by Brandon Craig Rhodes</title>
		<link>http://4.flowsnake.org/archives/1118/comment-page-1#comment-1143</link>
		<dc:creator>Brandon Craig Rhodes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2011 14:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hans, I am sorry that I am seeing your question so late! Linux always boots in text mode. Distributions like Ubuntu then hide the text screen by running an X Windows server on top of the text screen; but if you disable X, then the text screen will be what you see when Ubuntu is done booting. The X windows system is started by &quot;gdm&quot; in Ubuntu, the &quot;Gnome Display Manager&quot;, which you can &quot;turn off&quot; by disabling its init script:

$ sudo update-rc.d gdm disable

On the next reboot following this command, you should be greeted by a text screen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hans, I am sorry that I am seeing your question so late! Linux always boots in text mode. Distributions like Ubuntu then hide the text screen by running an X Windows server on top of the text screen; but if you disable X, then the text screen will be what you see when Ubuntu is done booting. The X windows system is started by &#8220;gdm&#8221; in Ubuntu, the &#8220;Gnome Display Manager&#8221;, which you can &#8220;turn off&#8221; by disabling its init script:</p>
<p>$ sudo update-rc.d gdm disable</p>
<p>On the next reboot following this command, you should be greeted by a text screen.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Another old, new iMac by Hans Nowak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hans Nowak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jul 2011 08:51:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve never had problems building Chicken on PPC. Built it before on an iBook G3 (running OS X Tiger) and an iMac G5 (running Leopard) as well, it always compiled right out of the box. This last one (Debian on G3) worked without problems as well. It&#039;s one of the reasons I reach for it on new systems, because it&#039;s reliable...

EDIT: I updated the wiki a bit, I can confirm that 4.7.0 builds OK on Linux/PPC G3. I also installed the readline and ncurses eggs with no problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never had problems building Chicken on PPC. Built it before on an iBook G3 (running OS X Tiger) and an iMac G5 (running Leopard) as well, it always compiled right out of the box. This last one (Debian on G3) worked without problems as well. It&#8217;s one of the reasons I reach for it on new systems, because it&#8217;s reliable&#8230;</p>
<p>EDIT: I updated the wiki a bit, I can confirm that 4.7.0 builds OK on Linux/PPC G3. I also installed the readline and ncurses eggs with no problems.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Another old, new iMac by Christian Kellermann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christian Kellermann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jul 2011 08:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome! Please report any issues you find when building chicken on ppc. Also consider updating the portability wiki page, as the ppc platform has not been used much by chicken developers. Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome! Please report any issues you find when building chicken on ppc. Also consider updating the portability wiki page, as the ppc platform has not been used much by chicken developers. Thanks!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Linux question, followup&#8230; by Hans Nowak</title>
		<link>http://4.flowsnake.org/archives/1118/comment-page-1#comment-1133</link>
		<dc:creator>Hans Nowak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jul 2011 00:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It does sort of work, but I don&#039;t like the large fonts... :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It does sort of work, but I don&#8217;t like the large fonts&#8230; :(</p>
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		<title>Comment on Linux question, followup&#8230; by Adam</title>
		<link>http://4.flowsnake.org/archives/1118/comment-page-1#comment-1130</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2011 18:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you try my suggestion to get a large font in the virtual terminals? It works for me, what happens when you do it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you try my suggestion to get a large font in the virtual terminals? It works for me, what happens when you do it?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Linux question, followup&#8230; by Hans Nowak</title>
		<link>http://4.flowsnake.org/archives/1118/comment-page-1#comment-1129</link>
		<dc:creator>Hans Nowak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2011 13:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Joost: I tried it, but it refused to install... I booted from an external CD drive (the netbook doesn&#039;t have one) and then the installer, for some reason, refused to recognize the CD-ROM; the same CD-ROM that it was booting from. (!?) Debian did the same thing, by the way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Joost: I tried it, but it refused to install&#8230; I booted from an external CD drive (the netbook doesn&#8217;t have one) and then the installer, for some reason, refused to recognize the CD-ROM; the same CD-ROM that it was booting from. (!?) Debian did the same thing, by the way.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Linux question, followup&#8230; by Adam Skutt</title>
		<link>http://4.flowsnake.org/archives/1118/comment-page-1#comment-1128</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Skutt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2011 09:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you want nearly everything Ubuntu has to offer but a text mode install, either use the Ubuntu server edition, or use Debian.  Don&#039;t use Arch unless you really like partying like it&#039;s 1999... in 2011.  

The only thing Debian lacks that anyone might need is multiarch support, and unfortunately the sanest multiarch support is still provided by RedHat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you want nearly everything Ubuntu has to offer but a text mode install, either use the Ubuntu server edition, or use Debian.  Don&#8217;t use Arch unless you really like partying like it&#8217;s 1999&#8230; in 2011.  </p>
<p>The only thing Debian lacks that anyone might need is multiarch support, and unfortunately the sanest multiarch support is still provided by RedHat.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Linux question, followup&#8230; by Joost</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2011 06:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Had you thought about the Server edition of Ubuntu?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Had you thought about the Server edition of Ubuntu?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Dear lazyweb: Wanted: Linux wranglers by Kelly Black</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelly Black</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jun 2011 15:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Slackware installs without X-Windows using LILO still.  You need to manually change the run-level to start X on boot.  Might give some hints.  I see others have suggested the same thing above.  Slack will also let you pick a non-graphical boot mode (i.e. no frame buffer junk by default) if you pick just defaults without fancy fonts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Slackware installs without X-Windows using LILO still.  You need to manually change the run-level to start X on boot.  Might give some hints.  I see others have suggested the same thing above.  Slack will also let you pick a non-graphical boot mode (i.e. no frame buffer junk by default) if you pick just defaults without fancy fonts.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Dear lazyweb: Wanted: Linux wranglers by Joe Tennies</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Tennies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jun 2011 01:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To get wifi to work, install &quot;cnetworkmanager&quot;.  It&#039;s a command line client for networkmanager (not the most user-friendly as I believe it takes several commands to see the list of networks and then connect to one, but it does work). 

To get sound to work, you need apps that use the sound card (yeah, I know sounds dumb).  Most use pulseaudio already, ogg123 or mpg321. ALSA should be there too, but it would only support a single sound at once (probably not a problem at a terminal only). You may need to manually start pulseaudio (`pulseaudio &amp;`).

SDL would need something to help it along like directfb, though most apps may expect X11. For actual app development should &quot;just work&quot; exactly the same code and all.  (Need to double check you have directfb installed). DirectFB support is still in 1.2 and looks to be in SDL 1.3 (under src/video/directfb). Note, I can&#039;t tell if the versions of libsdl in ubuntu are compiled w/ directfb support, you may need to rebuild it yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To get wifi to work, install &#8220;cnetworkmanager&#8221;.  It&#8217;s a command line client for networkmanager (not the most user-friendly as I believe it takes several commands to see the list of networks and then connect to one, but it does work). </p>
<p>To get sound to work, you need apps that use the sound card (yeah, I know sounds dumb).  Most use pulseaudio already, ogg123 or mpg321. ALSA should be there too, but it would only support a single sound at once (probably not a problem at a terminal only). You may need to manually start pulseaudio (`pulseaudio &amp;`).</p>
<p>SDL would need something to help it along like directfb, though most apps may expect X11. For actual app development should &#8220;just work&#8221; exactly the same code and all.  (Need to double check you have directfb installed). DirectFB support is still in 1.2 and looks to be in SDL 1.3 (under src/video/directfb). Note, I can&#8217;t tell if the versions of libsdl in ubuntu are compiled w/ directfb support, you may need to rebuild it yourself.</p>
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