Comments on: I can has scripting? http://4.flowsnake.org/archives/58 A Pythoneer's adventures with Chicken Scheme. ^_^ And more. Wed, 07 Jan 2009 01:58:14 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: creidiki http://4.flowsnake.org/archives/58#comment-78 creidiki Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:01:56 +0000 http://4.flowsnake.org/archives/58#comment-78 Concisiveness(sp?) is one of the things lispy languages are simply not very good at. You just have to look at the (aborted) esh project - a system shell like bash, but with scheme syntax, or at the similar effort to make a system shell based on SBCL. Chicken's (grep) suffers from this, as well as its existing, and rather convoluted, scsh-derived 'awk' egg. I wish you good luck with it - i've been using chicken for all my "shell script" functionality for a bit, and I'd dearly love a concise replacement for awk or even just the inbuilt regex functions :) Concisiveness(sp?) is one of the things lispy languages are simply not very good at.

You just have to look at the (aborted) esh project - a system shell like bash, but with scheme syntax, or at the similar effort to make a system shell based on SBCL.

Chicken's (grep) suffers from this, as well as its existing, and rather convoluted, scsh-derived 'awk' egg.

I wish you good luck with it - i've been using chicken for all my "shell script" functionality for a bit, and I'd dearly love a concise replacement for awk or even just the inbuilt regex functions :)

]]> By: Hans Nowak http://4.flowsnake.org/archives/58#comment-77 Hans Nowak Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:22:02 +0000 http://4.flowsnake.org/archives/58#comment-77 """Implicit is clearly better than explicit in the domain of throwaway code, though.""" Maybe you're right; I'll need to experiment with this some more. A lot more. """Anyhow, if Pythoneers really believed explicit was better than implicit, they'd all switch to Java.""" Hm, I don't know about that. Java is verbose, but it does do a number of things implicitly that Python does not. """Implicit is clearly better than explicit in the domain of throwaway code, though."""

Maybe you're right; I'll need to experiment with this some more. A lot more.

"""Anyhow, if Pythoneers really believed explicit was better than implicit, they'd all switch to Java."""

Hm, I don't know about that. Java is verbose, but it does do a number of things implicitly that Python does not.

]]> By: John Cowan http://4.flowsnake.org/archives/58#comment-76 John Cowan Thu, 07 Feb 2008 13:37:34 +0000 http://4.flowsnake.org/archives/58#comment-76 Implicit is clearly better than explicit in the domain of throwaway code, though. Anyhow, if Pythoneers really believed explicit was better than implicit, they'd all switch to Java. Implicit is clearly better than explicit in the domain of throwaway code, though. Anyhow, if Pythoneers really believed explicit was better than implicit, they'd all switch to Java.

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